Judge Pirro on the Birth of Octuplets
Raising children is no easy task. Ask any mother, including me. (By the way, I am the proud mother of two spectacular children: one in law school and one in college). As mothers, we share a communal joy of new births and smile when we see outward manifestations of a couple's private joy, the stork on the lawn or the sign on the door exclaiming "It's a boy!" or "It's a girl!".
But the birth of octuplets last month presents dark and troubling issues for us all. Questions about the "miracle" of how eight babies were born were resolved when the birth mother confirmed that she requested the implantation of six embryos in her womb. This after she had already had six other embryos implanted resulting in six births. We now know this so called "miracle" was premeditated, orchestrated, manipulated and reckless. We stand witness to the intersection of medical science with greed and irresponsibility. The birth mama, Nadya Suleman, has hit the airwaves, hired a publicist and is on her way to her fifteen minutes of fame. All is going according to plan. And what's wrong with that? Just about everything.
Any mother who just had twins, let alone octuplets, would be home trying to get the house ready for eight new babies or maybe even taking care of the six children under the age of seven she already has! Not this mom. Her stated goal is not to raise 14 children all under the age of seven but instead to be a "television child care expert". Yet any mother, who has an ounce of maternal instinct, would be home preparing her six children for the arrival of their new brothers and sisters. Not "Miss Wannabe Angelina Jolie" who hasn't had a job in eight years, who filed two workmen compensation claims when she was working (she has collected nearly $168,000), who is divorced and lives with her mom and dad who themselves have already filed for bankruptcy. Add to the list that she lied about receiving welfare and in fact receives both state and federal assistance. No, she is on the television circuit lamenting her childhood as an only child. Both she and her spokespeople inanely repeat how "joyful" they are about the births. HOGWASH!!
Instead of the media tour, "Miss Wannabe Angelina Jolie" should be asking herself where are my new babies going to sleep? How do I buy eight cribs if I'm unemployed? How much will diapers cost a week? Who will do the shopping? Who will do the laundry? Who will help the other six children with their homework, schedule play dates and be attentive enough to identify possible learning disabilities, physical problems or even physical prowess or special inclination? Where are her maternal instincts that she's wearing on her sleeve? Why isn't she at home thinking about the pertinent, relevant and natural issues like: Let's see, I already have six children and I'm bringing home eight more. I live with my mom and dad in an extremely small three bedroom home. That is 17 people in three bedrooms. You do the math.
I know families who have 15 children. They came one or two at a time. God's plan made it easier, more time per child, more time to acclimate to new siblings; even built-in babysitters.
But she is not the only one to blame. The fertility specialist who implanted six embryos knew the probability of six or more babies. That doctor knew the woman in whom he was about to implant embryos already had six children under the age of seven. This was not a woman who had been trying to have a baby; this was not a woman who never had a baby; who tried over and over and couldn't conceive. This was a woman who for whatever reason needs the attention that 14 children under the age of seven would give.
She says she was thrilled at the success of the in vitro fertilization, the successful births and the good health of all. Her subsequent actions, however, cast a new light on this unique event. The history of the mother, the bizarre motivations involved and the media cast an unflattering light on the woman glued to the camera.
Maybe it's none of my business - - none of our business. That might very well be, except we're paying for the hospital, the delivery and everything thereafter. The estimates are that the hospital stay will cost over a million dollars and the cost of raising fourteen children will run between 1.3 and 2.7 million dollars. Mama admits she has no real means of support but says she'll be able to afford them when she finishes HER education. I have no problem with a safety net. Americans are some of the most generous and charitable people in the world. But don't try to con me into believing that this is about a woman who just loves children.
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Human lives are not something you can toy with! What is she thinking?! 14 children, no job, living with her parents. This is selfish. However, if she truely means to care and love all of these children, then we should support not her, but the children. They're going to need all the help that they can get.
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She has gotten too much press time and is spending a lot of money not to have had an Dr. Phil is obessed with her.
She is mentally sick. In addition, she is not fit to raise 14 children. Nadia had 6 children in her first pregnancy; that should have been enough.
As it is today, one child needs two parents. Nadia deliberately had 8 additional children without a father in the household. This is totally insane. I did not feel sorry for her when she was bringing the two babies home for the first time. Taxpayers have the right to be angry. We work hard and plan carefully before bring a child into the world. Who does she think she is?
As Judge Pirro mentioned, Nadia will not be able to identify individual skills lacking in each child. Simply because she will not have the time to spend with each child. Hopefully, the pediatrician will recognize to provide early interevention asap.
We just have to keep the babies and the older siblings in our prayers. Regardless, they are innocent children. They deserve the best care.
But, what kind of message are we sending these brand new souls? It's not their fault their mother and doctor were idiots.
Just exactly how much income does 14 children per month earn from our government? She doesn't look like Angelina Jolie, she just looks like someone who's had alot of face work. It's our business when our taxes are being used!
I personally do not care about this woman at all. I believe that people and media giving her all this attention is exactly what she wants, so to give into it is rediculous. Everyone should be concerned for her children and that it is it. She is obviously way too irresponsible to have them. Instead of people offering to help her with money(the only thing she has ever been after is other people's money) and other tangible items to help her, people should be worring about where her children may end up, and how emotionally messed up they will all likely be from this experience. if they do remain in her care she cannot possibly give enough love and attention to all of them, which is something all parents who have any love for their kids and not just themselves think about. her irresponsibility disguts me, and i am only 18.
Often it is obvious what a wondeful person she is.
The babies are here. The conception is part of the miracle and she decided to test it and made it through the process imperfect though it might be. Something still tells me there is the chance for something perfect of this and it might be to think again the concept of perfection some seek in vitro or through children.
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I agree she planned this whole thing thats why she obviously told no one that she was carrying octupilets seems that no one has thought of those facts I do believe the whole family new and it was planned justlike her mom asking on dr phil.oh maybe someone could help us with a house.Then she softly tells her mom,(oh we cant ssk for that) just the way it was said So ----! FAKE.Shes a phoney.Shes out to become famous.Those poor babys after the public gets over the excitment,they will stop helping.I pray someone can help those poor innocent babies.
this, well i don't exactly know how to describe her other than, thing is a wart on the backside of society. she should have those kids taken from her and put up for adoption. as alot of people i know would put it, she is a baby machine and needs to be shut down. then for sucking the resources out of the pockets of those who truley need it to survive, she should be charged criminally for it. i am sure there is a crime for abusing the systems resources that would charge her. Now as for the dr, he needs to loose his license and be charged with recklessness. that is a reckless thing that he did. yes, he was getting paid for it but, his moral standards were completely off and he needs to be charged with it.
This woman is a nut case!! How in the world did she ever convince a DR. to follow through with this absurd idea?? I believe that she should be locked up in the nuthouse and those innocent children should be taken care of by people who truly give a damn about their welfare. No one ever helped me with my 2 children and that was hard enough - but 14?? How does this nutso sleep at night knowing that she is neglecting children who depend on her (?) for their every care? I, for one, would love to step in and at the very least love these children. This woman (?) only wants publicity, and she sure has got that. I feel sorry for those kids and wish there was something that I could do to make their lives better. KEEP HER OFF TV SHOWS!!!!
This woman would never have been allowed to adopt children or become a foster parent. Someone needs to update medical practice and ethics regarding infertility treatments. Another red flag is someone on govt. assistance who is paying thousands $$$$ for infertility treatments - that's like people on welfare who somehow can afford a new mercedes. . .
Judge Pirro, thank you for sharing your view and for expressing it so beautifully. i agree with you completely.
This woman is the poster child of so much that is wrong with society today: greed, selfishness, vanity, deceit, opportunism, grandiosity, entitlement, child neglect, child abuse, technology gone too far, notoriety, obsession, narcissism, recklessness, and so forth.
A word about what she has put her parents through - shame on her. She has placed them in an impossible situation. This alone speaks to her hatefulness. Her parents - at an age where they should be able to sit back a little and maybe even retire - have been forced to support and care for her and these innocent children. I heard Nadia once say that when she was growing up, she didn't "feel loved". Could this be some sick way of getting even with her parents?
These children of hers are victims of a very disturbed person. Unfortunately their chances of a normal, adjusted, happy life are slim because of the things that woman has already subjected them too. I am outraged and sickened by her actions. The children have already been exploited, all 14 of them, and in my opinion, the best thing for them would be to be taken away from this twisted woman and privately adopted by couples who can protect them and love them as they all deserve.
Such a sad commentary on the way science has been abused by this woman and her doctor. So many people looking for just ONE child, bywhatever means they can afford, and this person makes a mockery of the process.
I'm appalled. And to think I have to help her raise these children, who are not reponsible for her foolish and irresponsible actions, but must suffer the consequences.
The physician was irresponsible. Needless to say, this situation should never have happened.
Just one question!
How the he-double-hockey sticks can a responsible physician treat a mother of six for infertility?
And, while I haven't seen it specifically stated, I believe the same physician to be responsible for several of the other six children.
I'm just so annoyed with this woman. She really has no sense of reality at all. She's collecting disability on 3 kids. One that has ADHD. Why is she collecting money for this? I can understand getting meds paid for and if he needs a special school or something but why is she getting money for this? I just don't understand why someone would use their workmans comp money to implant more embryos when you have 6 already. Instead of thinking logically like most people do and instead of living in your mothers house. Why not use that money and BUY YOURSELF A PLACE! This situation just has so many people upset and the fact that people are actually offering to help her and give her diapers for free and formula. She made these choices! She was single ever since the first kid came along! She CHOSE to have 14 children without a job without a partner to help her. Why should she be getting all this help and publicity for a very bad decision she made. I really feel bad for those poor kids.
I had one child, stayed home and didn't go anywhere for 6 weeks after the birth. What's wrong with this woman? Who is taking care of the 6 children at home? What is she doing getting a manicure? Shopping for video games?
there is no possible way she can raise these children alone this was completly planned! shes just living off all of us....i hope cps steps in real soon!
I don't know what to think, especially after her lying about welfare and her cosmetic surgery.
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